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Royce
01-20-2009, 09:02 PM
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Andy62
01-20-2009, 10:34 PM
Royce, great article thanks for posting. Gordon
MikeNY
01-21-2009, 08:27 AM
Royce I second Gordon, very interesting article, a blast from the past.
Royce
01-21-2009, 02:34 PM
Andy,
Greg had this article for some time. He and I determined that it might be good for all to read.
VRT Man
01-21-2009, 04:14 PM
Thanks for putting this up, Royce.
I found the article, scanned it and sent it to Royce. He's been gracious enough to display it, something I still have a little trouble accomplishing, but I'm gettin' better.
--Greg Mangan
Andy62
01-21-2009, 09:48 PM
I have posted the following quote before,but I think it is pertinent to this thread:
" Because strength generally does not exceed 30% of your tendon strength, the strength govenor mechanism is set up way too conservatively. Scientists believe that pulling the brake from your gas pedal, that is minimizing the inhibitory imput into the muscles is the key that will open the door to super strength undreamed of by the strongest people in the world. Despite grandmothers wrestling leopards and mothers
lifting cars to save their progeny supposedly do something to prevent the 'take it easy, you might get hurt' commands from reaching their muscles. Insane people bend bars in the windows of their cells- I believe they call them wards in the US- because their neural circuitry is goofed up. It does not recognize inhibitory input and does not hold you back.. This is the essence of DISINHIBITION TRAINING, THE HOTTEST NEW DIRECTION IN STRENGTH TRAINING. Of course we do not want to to totally lose our senses, rather learn to ignore them when we choose to.
Enter FEED-FORWARD TENSION, one of the most promising disinhibition techniques. It requires you to maximally contract your muscles with a submaximal weight or NO WEIGHT WHATSOEVER. Remember Charles Atlas and his 'Dynamic Tension'method? You are supposed to imitate lifting a weight by flexing your muscles for all you have got. Just as Tai Chi Kung differs from visually similar calisthenics in concentration and awareness , 'Dynamic Tension' is an Oscar Winning pantomime of a world record powerlift, and not just a mindless going through the motions.
The guy in the leopard skin swim suit did not invent the method. Russian Scientists Anokin and Proshek did in the early 1900s. Or so they thought. Bodhidharma, the semi mythical progenitor of Oriental martial arts from India, may have practiced such exercises a millennium and a half ago.
Scientists were skeptical of 'Dynamic Tension' for a while suspecting that by creating artificial resistance within your muscles you learn to put on the brakes. The Soviet study by Kovalik established beyond the shadow of a doubt that ' virtual lifting' builds strength even in the so called quick lifts."
"Power to The People"
by Pavel Tsatsoline
Pages 71& 72
VRT Man
01-22-2009, 08:09 AM
The topic: VRT
I come here to see and share what the real operators do, not to ponder what Joe Weider’s take is on the subject, with respect to bloated Body Builders and pathologically-shifty thieves is. No, they’re not cunning, nor in possession of greater nerve force, either. Nyet to them. Nyet to their combined propaganda.
Thank you again, Royce (and Greg, I see.) I appreciate your guys’ work and posts, but in this case I’m going to have to bust your chops.
-John
First of all, mudrunner, I'd like to thank you for your input so far. I especially liked your previous posts on VRT.
The reason for posting this article is because it is proof that others were experimenting with similar procedures, NOT that they invented it! And no, I'm not into the Weider "pharmaceutical freaks" brand of bodybuilding by any means. But I do like the fact that the Soviet (i.e. Russian) coaches had scientific proof, where others here in the U.S. had pooh-pooed the idea of VRT.
Funny thing is, when I first read that article in Dec. of '85, I was at first flabbergasted, and thought they had stolen my idea!! I had been advertising for 2-1/2 years at the time, and had sold my VRT course to over 40 foreign countries, including three countries in the Soviet Eastern Block. That alone told me that the idea had filtered through the network. Nor do I agree with the excerpt that Andy62 posted that the Russians Anokin and Proshek invented it in the early 1900's; what I do agree with is that it is thousands of years old, which is in the following sentence.
In fact, I later wrote a letter to the magazine, which it posted in the Reader's Feedback section, and told them I had advertised a similar system right there in their magazine years before. Curiously, Joe Weider's editor replied that HE (Joe Weider) invented it!! I was frustrated with this remark, and later found there were other magazines to advertise in. This is years before the internet. And it goes on and on. I really do not care who invented it, for it has always been invented.
I believe in synchronicity; when an idea is written about, there are others who are onto the same idea, somewhere in the world. At the time Einstein wrote the General Theory of Relativity in 1905, there was a scientist in Australia who was onto the exact same idea. When the time has come, others will appear. But I had Royce post this merely for the evidence that the Soviet coaches discovered an identical method, not to give homage to the Weider organization or their brand of bodybuilding by any means.
--Greg Mangan
gruntbrain
01-22-2009, 10:18 AM
The Evil Russian also endorses this stuff in his Naked Warrior
Ol' folks will recall Jack LaLanne's facial contortions
Andy62
01-22-2009, 11:43 AM
The Russians and Joe Weider are in competition for who invented everything.
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